One of Ava White’s friends said the young schoolgirl “went pale” and screamed after being fatally stabbed in the neck.
The 12-year-old schoolgirl was in Liverpool city center last autumn when a 14-year-old boy, Boy A, who can not be named for legal reasons, stabbed her to death.
He accepted that he stabbed her, but denies murder or manslaughter and claims he acted in self-defense. This was reported by the Liverpool Echo .
A recording of an interview conducted with a friend of Ava’s, a 15-year-old girl identified by the Echo as Girl C, has now been played in court.
It took place on November 26 last year, the day after the stabbing, where she described what happened leading up to the horrific stabbing.
She recalled how her friend Ava “went pale” after being stabbed and then started screaming, the court was told.
Girl C said she met Ava and other friends in Queens Square, Liverpool, before heading to Williamson Square, where they danced to music outside the pub.
She said four “boys” walked past and because the girls were “playing around with little Ava,” the four started picking her up.
Girl C said Ava then “got a little angry” at not wanting to be filmed and asked her to delete the footage.
The witness said the boys deleted the video and she said her group was about to go to a nearby McDonald’s when the boys “started yelling stuff.”
At that moment, the court was told, Ava and another girl approached the group and a confrontation began.
Girl C told the officer, “Ava and this smaller boy started fighting more and he pushed her. She wanted revenge, he backed away… she came in his face, out of the blue he raised his arm and caught her on the back of the neck. At first we thought he just hit her, then he started running. We ran after him.
The witness said Ava “went pale” and started saying “ow, ow.”
Girl C said, “She yelled ‘Ouch.’ She pulled down her coat and we could only see all the blood.
“When we realized she had been stabbed, we walked past the Primark and she collapsed on the floor.”
When questioned further by detectives about the series of events leading up to the fatal stabbing, Girl C said that earlier, prior to the stabbing, Ava had been lying on the ground on a side street when she and her friends picked her up.
Discussing the events leading up to the stabbing, she said the boys were “laughing” and two or three of them started filming them at that point, which she described as “strange.”
The court heard the boys declined to take the girls in, which angered Girl C and her group because they said they knew they had done it.
She added that one of the guys claimed he posted a video on Snapchat and then deleted it, and this upset Ava.
Girl C told her friend to “let it go” because it had been deleted. Girl C said: “She just called them crazy people and stuff like that. The big boy really just laughed in her face.”
As they walked on, the boys continued to taunt them and Ava grew more angry, the court heard.
The witness said she didn’t think it sounded like there was going to be a fight, but Ava started arguing with one of them and they “locked eyes.”
She said, “Then the boy pushed Ava, so Ava retaliated.”
Girl C said the “smallest boy” – Boy A – said “get out of my face” and pushed her once before Ava “retaliated” and he “came back in her face”. She said Boy A was “naughty”.
She said Ava asked him what he was doing and he walked away from her in a circle and she approached him.
Girl C said, “I think he just pulled something out of his waistband and lifted his arm. At first we thought he just hit her, but as he ran I saw a grip, like a black grip in his hand.”
Girl C added, “I was like, ‘What is this?'” She said Ava was in “shock.”
When asked further about the stabbing, she said, “He got it up to Ava’s neck, it was lightning fast.” She then said, “He just ran.”
The girl explained that she ran after the boy, but turned when she saw something in his hand and Ava remarked, “the face she pulled and how white she turned and then I heard screams.”
Girl C said Boy A had a “striking smile” on the side of his face. She said he “kept smiling at her [Ava] so” with that “cheeky smile”.
She said he laughed at her and called her “cheeky” before the incident when he stabbed her.
Under cross-examination by Nick Johnson QC, who defended herself, the girl said Ava was lying on the floor because she was “playing around”, not because she had been drinking vodka.
She said Ava yelled at the boys for filming her but didn’t yell, and she thought she saw Ava try to snatch Boy C’s phone.
Girl C said she did not hear two older boys talking about “blades” or threatened to stab Boy C and did not see any of these boys with knives or know if they had knives.
She said the boys yelled things like “Muppet” at Ava as they crossed Church Street. Girl C said, “I think Ava just wanted them to apologize for saying stuff to her.”
Girl C denied Ava wanted to fight Boy A. She said that boy A “could possibly” have said “get out of my face, boy”, but she couldn’t remember.
When asked if Ava dressed “a little bit like a boy,” she said “a little bit,” but everyone knew she was a girl.
Mr Johnson said: “Obviously you knew she was a girl, but to a stranger she might have looked like a boy?” Girl C replied, “I’m not sure.”
Girl C said she did not see Ava pushing Boy A or Ava chasing after Boy A. She said that just before he stabbed her, Boy A took three or more steps back, but she did not see him “run backwards” from her.
The process goes on.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ava-whites-friend-says-schoolgirl-26938624 A friend of Ava White says a schoolgirl has "turned pale" after being fatally stabbed on Liverpool Street