MSNBC on Wednesday night aired newly obtained footage showing Donald Trump’s ally and longtime GOP agent Roger Stone dictating what sounds a lot like the crux of the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election.
In the video, Stone dictates a message saying that “each legislature” can send its own constituents to the electoral college “on the basis of overwhelming evidence of fraud.”
Such evidence has never been presented, and Trump and his allies have lost in court at every turn, including in cases before judges appointed by Trump himself.
But Stone contended that state legislatures could annul those results anyway to “correctly reflect the president’s legitimate victory in their state, wrongfully denied him by fraud.”
He also said Trump allies had to lobby lawmakers through “face-to-face contact,” which they did, in many cases, as Trump himself called out and pressured people to throw out the election results.
MSNBC’s Ari Melber notes that it’s not clear what Stone did next, or if that message was actually forwarded to Trump and used by his team. If that were the case, the footage could show how early in the process the plan was hatched, as it was recorded on November 5, 2020 — two days after Election Day and two days before the results were announced for Democrat Joe Biden on November 5 November 2020. 7.
“It’s definitely bad, it’s definitely distressing when people want to say they just want to get real results or act in good faith,” Melber said. “You tried to steal and overthrow an election that you hadn’t even officially lost.”
The video was provided to the network by Danish filmmaker Christoffer Guldbrandsen, who directed a documentary about Stone and the 2020 election called A Storm Foretold.
The conspiracy is now the focus of a federal indictment against Trump in Washington, DC and a state racketeering trial of the former president and his allies in Georgia.
Attorney and former federal prosecutor John Flannery told Melber that the footage could be “influential” to prosecutors who could use it to show “knowledge and intent” behind the conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.
Watch the clip – and the discussion – below:
Guldbrandsen told The Daily Beast earlier this year that at times Stone seemed to forget he was wearing a microphone and in one instance was “really, really worried” about the recordings.
In previously released clips, Stone could be heard calling Ivanka Trump, the former president’s daughter, an “abortion bitch” and warning that Donald Trump would have his “fucking brain bashed in” if he ran again.
He hasn’t commented on the new footage, but has hinted in the past that the clips “deep fake”Videos.