On that same line of thought, it feels like you broke your brain a little bit with the science side of the show. I talked to several other writers about just keeping timelines and the multiverse and all of that straight. How does it feel to see big budget series like Marvel and DC put into their multiverse game? Do you sit back with a cigarette like, “Oh, I…”
Roland: No, no, no. I am the opposite. Personally, I’m really intrigued. I said, “Let’s go. Kick the metal, do it.” I want to see them do it. I want to see details. I was haunted by that. Obviously, just look at our program. I think it’s an interesting thing if done well. Well, if you’re really logical about it, they’re contradictory and there are things in Marvel’s multiverse that don’t come together. But I just turned off that part of my brain and just enjoyed it. As long as they’re doing it and they’re going to get there and really commit to the multiverse, I’m open to it. Spider-Man, the most recent movie, is amazing. I know, canonically, it’s not quite – don’t even get me started.
In “Endgame”, there are some issues where Steve Rogers suddenly appears in the same universe but is old. So wait a minute, that means he went back in time in that exact same timeline, because I think they’re transcending other realities, right? That means what? Do you understand what I mean? Wait, we’re now entering “Back to the Future” territory. But I just said, “Okay, you know? Maybe he somehow found a way back to reality as an old geezer and who cares?” And I just flip that switch and just enjoy the cool thing. It is really well made. And for f***’s sake, it’s one of the best movies ever in terms of crazy interlacing alone. It is just wonderful. So I think it’s all really great, I want to see more of it and I’m glad it’s happening.
Honestly, if you think about it, we didn’t make s**t. Marvel did it, and DC did it back in the comics before us. We’re not comic book nerds, so we don’t really know about all the crazy stuff, but I’m thinking about “Sliders” in the deepest corners of my mind, not even really remembering that. I referenced it.
Grammer: “Quantum Leap.”
Roiland: Yeah, all kinds of madness –
Grammer: A bit of “X-Files,” a bit of sci-fi.
Roiland: It’s crazy that we grew up together. And it’s like I didn’t actively realize it, but then, back in the day, after a couple of seasons, I was rewatching “Sliders” and I was like, “Oh, my God, man.” Even the first episode blew my mind. And that’s the stuff that I watched after season 3, and we did some of the things we did in season 3. I said, “Dude, I remember watching this in high school,” and I didn’t. watch it since high school. schools. So it was in there somewhere.
Either way, the multiverse stuff is still incredibly appealing to me, and I’d love to see Marvel just go all-in on the heavy multiverse. And let’s see what DC does. I’ll say one thing, one of DC’s strengths is that the movies don’t need to affect each other. So you can have “Joker”, but then you can have “Shazam!” and all is good. But if they will tie them together, how do you do it with [Christopher] Nolan Batman and af***ing “Shazam!” timbre? I don’t know, how do you do it? They are very different. Even what James Gunn did with “The Suicide Squad,” was amazing. That movie is absolutely just beautiful. Unbelievable. It’s one of my favorite superhero stuff that’s been done lately. It’s so good. But how do you take that and combine that with what they’re doing with, say, the new Batman? How do you combine those worlds in a multiverse way? I guess the multiverse is different from the cinematic universe. So sorry.
But yeah, Marvel multiverse stuff, take it, man. I want to see all the actors back. What they did for Spider-Man is the best thing ever. It’s like, “Okay, so it’s all real. It’s all regular. Everything’s rules.” I guess that’s the big cheat code, yes, when you have the multiverse, and that’s what we’ve relied on in this show. Look at Jerry’s version of Cronenberg. It’s like he’s just another person. He’s not the same at all. It was fun that we had to do that and still go back to what the program was, the standard program. But that’s still what we have to do, and the multiverse is the safety net underneath all that.
Grammer: Cheat code. I like that you call it a cheat code. That’s the best way to put it.
Roiland: It’s the best, because it’s not just a cheat code, but it’s this cool, sci-fi, amazing thing that might even be real. We don’t even know.
Grammer: It could be real, yes. YES.
Roland: Most likely. We really don’t know. With quantum physics and all the madness, we don’t know what’s going on. Who knows, man? We can figure that out by doing some weird things. You can literally transition to another reality, and then everyone around you is a little bit different, and you’re like, “What the hell just happened?” Then there’s the Mandela effect. You’re like, “Well, wait a minute. No, that’s not the way. It’s the other way.” We don’t know what’s going on. Right? There are many strange things.
The sixth season of “Rick and Morty” premieres at 11:00 p.m. ET/PT on September 4, 2022 on Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim channel.
https://www.slashfilm.com/974082/rick-and-mortys-justin-roiland-and-spencer-grammer-talk-multiverse-mayhem-mythology-and-meta-mockery-interview/ Rick And Morty’s Justin Roiland and Spencer Grammer Talk Multitiverse Mayhem, Mythology, And Meta Mockery [Interview]