Only after some of the initial options had been exhausted did Mr. Waldron float the idea of using other parts of the federal government to seize the machines for both Mr. Giuliani and members of Trump’s legal team, and for Mr. Flynn and his associates. , including Mrs. Powell and Patrick Byrne, a wealthy business executive who has funded numerous efforts to challenge the election.
Mr. Waldron, who owns a bar and distillery outside of Austin, Texas, was previously best known for circulating a 38-page PowerPoint presentation to lawmakers and White House aides who are full of radical plans to overturn the election.
Mr. Giuliani was vehemently opposed to the idea of the military being involved in seizing the machines, according to two people familiar with the matter. The conflict between him and his legal team, and Mr. Flynn, Ms. Powell and Mr. Byrne, became acute on December 18, 2020, during a meeting with Mr. Trump in the Oval Office.
At the meeting, Mr. Flynn and Mrs. Powell presented Mr. Trump with a copy of a draft executive order authorizing the military to oversee the seizure of the machinery. After reading it, Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Giuliani to the Oval Office, according to a person familiar with the matter. When Mr. Giuliani read out the draft order, he told Mr. Trump that the military could only be used if there was clear evidence of foreign interference in the election.
Ms. Powell, who spent the last month filing a lawsuit alleging that China and other countries hacked into voting machines, said she had such evidence, the person said. However, Mr. Giuliani was adamant that the military should not be mobilized, the person said, and Mr. Trump ultimately heeded his advice.
The person said shortly after the Oval Office meeting, Mr. Waldron revised the draft executive order, suggesting that if the Department of Defense could not oversee the seizure of the machines, then the Department of Homeland Security could.
Around that time, Trump asked Giuliani to call Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II, acting deputy secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, to inquire about the viability of the proposal, according to two people familiar with the matter. this topic. Mr. Cuccinelli said that homeland security officials could not be involved in the plan.
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